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		<title>By: Iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon

Please read my last post... I said: &lt;em&gt;&quot;… you claim that Sachiko posts on another site then “hides”, and accuse her of hypocracy…&lt;/em&gt;&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon</p>
<p>Please read my last post&#8230; I said: <em>&#8220;… you claim that Sachiko posts on another site then “hides”, and accuse her of hypocracy…</em>&#8221;<br />
Notice I said ANOTHER SITE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sachiko</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-1850&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Anon&lt;/a&gt; - The Doc moderates here as well as Asian Sirens, so if they&#039;re both discussing the same thing, why should he have to moderate both if he has the choice? And once again, why shouldn&#039;t I direct all comments to my blog (so I can get more traffic on my own site), instead of another site? If you look at previous posts on me at AS (before I had my own blog), you will see there are a lot of negative comments, which the Doc allowed. But now I have my own forum, he doesn&#039;t want to have to do any more work than he has to, and I want the traffic to come to my own sites instead of AS.

Now, do you actually have anything worthwhile to say apart from pointless bitching, brave Mr Anon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1850" rel="nofollow">@Anon</a> &#8211; The Doc moderates here as well as Asian Sirens, so if they&#8217;re both discussing the same thing, why should he have to moderate both if he has the choice? And once again, why shouldn&#8217;t I direct all comments to my blog (so I can get more traffic on my own site), instead of another site? If you look at previous posts on me at AS (before I had my own blog), you will see there are a lot of negative comments, which the Doc allowed. But now I have my own forum, he doesn&#8217;t want to have to do any more work than he has to, and I want the traffic to come to my own sites instead of AS.</p>
<p>Now, do you actually have anything worthwhile to say apart from pointless bitching, brave Mr Anon?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1850</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@iain
I said nothing about what she does and posts HERE on this site.  Go nuts...it&#039;s her name right there up top.  I was referring to another site which is driven by community contributions and conversations.  Well, &lt;em&gt;normally &lt;/em&gt;driven by conversations, except when they are magically locked for one person.

Why &quot;Anon&quot;?  Because as I stated before, Doc is easily offended by comments that are not gushing in their praise for you.  Furthermore he becomes petulant and begins waving the &quot;ban stick&quot; around.  I rather enjoy reading and posting on that site so I avoid that, thank you.

My point is:  If you&#039;re confident enough to post nude/topless/&quot;sexy&quot; &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; on a site that bills itself &quot;The Essence of Asian Beauty&quot;, then you should be confident and willing to take the comments that the community offers.  However, since it hasn&#039;t always &quot;gone your way&quot; before and Doc has taken extreme exception to that fact, it is a cop-out to say &quot;I want to minimize Doc&#039;s workload&quot;.  He replies two and three times per post on AS...I&#039;m sure if it were anyone else he would in fact enjoy a lengthy conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iain<br />
I said nothing about what she does and posts HERE on this site.  Go nuts&#8230;it&#8217;s her name right there up top.  I was referring to another site which is driven by community contributions and conversations.  Well, <em>normally </em>driven by conversations, except when they are magically locked for one person.</p>
<p>Why &#8220;Anon&#8221;?  Because as I stated before, Doc is easily offended by comments that are not gushing in their praise for you.  Furthermore he becomes petulant and begins waving the &#8220;ban stick&#8221; around.  I rather enjoy reading and posting on that site so I avoid that, thank you.</p>
<p>My point is:  If you&#8217;re confident enough to post nude/topless/&#8221;sexy&#8221; <em>anything</em> on a site that bills itself &#8220;The Essence of Asian Beauty&#8221;, then you should be confident and willing to take the comments that the community offers.  However, since it hasn&#8217;t always &#8220;gone your way&#8221; before and Doc has taken extreme exception to that fact, it is a cop-out to say &#8220;I want to minimize Doc&#8217;s workload&#8221;.  He replies two and three times per post on AS&#8230;I&#8217;m sure if it were anyone else he would in fact enjoy a lengthy conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more.

Sachiko this is YOUR site, and you are perfectly within your rights to do anything you like with it - there&#039;s nothing wrong with self-promotion... I myself a member of an online art community where the whole point is self-promotion.  So I understand where you are coming from.

Anon... you claim that Sachiko posts on another site then &quot;hides&quot;, and accuse her of hypocracy... how about you?
You hide under &quot;Anon&quot;... How is that any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>Sachiko this is YOUR site, and you are perfectly within your rights to do anything you like with it &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing wrong with self-promotion&#8230; I myself a member of an online art community where the whole point is self-promotion.  So I understand where you are coming from.</p>
<p>Anon&#8230; you claim that Sachiko posts on another site then &#8220;hides&#8221;, and accuse her of hypocracy&#8230; how about you?<br />
You hide under &#8220;Anon&#8221;&#8230; How is that any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Sachiko</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-1846&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Originally Posted By Anon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is cowardly to continue to close comments whenever you post this stuff on Asian Sirens.com.  You and/or Doc have obviously had your egos bruised with your previous posts on that page, so you post and then &quot;hide&quot;.  I may or may not agree with your politics and philosophies, but I complete disagree with the hypocrisy with which you and he wrap yourselves on that website.  

You said &quot;all opinions are welcome (indeed, encouraged)&quot;.  This is my opinion...post it if you dare.  But I doubt you will.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Alright brave Mr Anon (LOL!), what do you have to say? :-) I simply want people to comment here, so as to maximise my traffic (and minimise the Doc&#039;s workload). You may call that cynical, but why shouldn&#039;t I encourage people to comment on my site when it comes to discussing my own material?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1846" rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By Anon</a><br />It is cowardly to continue to close comments whenever you post this stuff on Asian Sirens.com.  You and/or Doc have obviously had your egos bruised with your previous posts on that page, so you post and then &#8220;hide&#8221;.  I may or may not agree with your politics and philosophies, but I complete disagree with the hypocrisy with which you and he wrap yourselves on that website.  </p>
<p>You said &#8220;all opinions are welcome (indeed, encouraged)&#8221;.  This is my opinion&#8230;post it if you dare.  But I doubt you will.</p></blockquote>
<p>Alright brave Mr Anon (LOL!), what do you have to say? <img src='http://www.sachikospace.com/english/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I simply want people to comment here, so as to maximise my traffic (and minimise the Doc&#8217;s workload). You may call that cynical, but why shouldn&#8217;t I encourage people to comment on my site when it comes to discussing my own material?</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morris... thanks for calling me ignorant.

Yes missionaries have gone out with medicines to cure the sick... but it was doctors and scientists who created those drugs, not priests and ministers, monks or nuns.

I don&#039;t want to get into an argument over this, but I am well aware of the good that Christians do... and muslims, jews, buddhists and athiests.  I am also well aware of the evil they have done - all of them.

The point is that Sachiko is dealing with the &lt;strong&gt;Bible&lt;/strong&gt;, not other texts, so we are discussing the things within the book which do not gel with a modern, humanitarian society.  

Please don&#039;t use this forum to insult the intelligence of people just becsuse they don&#039;t agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morris&#8230; thanks for calling me ignorant.</p>
<p>Yes missionaries have gone out with medicines to cure the sick&#8230; but it was doctors and scientists who created those drugs, not priests and ministers, monks or nuns.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to get into an argument over this, but I am well aware of the good that Christians do&#8230; and muslims, jews, buddhists and athiests.  I am also well aware of the evil they have done &#8211; all of them.</p>
<p>The point is that Sachiko is dealing with the <strong>Bible</strong>, not other texts, so we are discussing the things within the book which do not gel with a modern, humanitarian society.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t use this forum to insult the intelligence of people just becsuse they don&#8217;t agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/04/the-bible-on-disciplining-children/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is cowardly to continue to close comments whenever you post this stuff on Asian Sirens.com.  You and/or Doc have obviously had your egos bruised with your previous posts on that page, so you post and then &quot;hide&quot;.  I may or may not agree with your politics and philosophies, but I complete disagree with the hypocrisy with which you and he wrap yourselves on that website.  

You said &quot;all opinions are welcome (indeed, encouraged)&quot;.  This is my opinion...post it if you dare.  But I doubt you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is cowardly to continue to close comments whenever you post this stuff on Asian Sirens.com.  You and/or Doc have obviously had your egos bruised with your previous posts on that page, so you post and then &#8220;hide&#8221;.  I may or may not agree with your politics and philosophies, but I complete disagree with the hypocrisy with which you and he wrap yourselves on that website.  </p>
<p>You said &#8220;all opinions are welcome (indeed, encouraged)&#8221;.  This is my opinion&#8230;post it if you dare.  But I doubt you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris Fine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morris Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sachiko- Thank you! Your primary objective (in my opinion), is achieved.  When I was little, I used to ask the Sunday School teacher why God seemed pretty mean at times.  I was shut down.  I asked that again and again over the years- and learned to question things.

You open the video with &quot;honor thy father&quot;.  In reality, my father abandoned my family.  When I asked my priest back then how I am supposed to honor a guy like that, I was told to just honor him.  I did not go back to church for five years.  Their interpretation of Christianity did not &quot;speak&quot; to me.  Years later, I was talking to a priest who said I should probably just &quot;honor my mother doubly&quot;.  That was good enough for me, as my mother did the work of two parents.

Which brings me to the Bible again.  It was written by men- not women.  Right there, it becomes suspect as it excludes 1/2 of the populations&#039; interpretations.   No Fortune 500 Company can do well today without having women at the executive level.  How could the Bible?  How could the church?  If women wrote it- only women, I think many stories in the Bible would have been different.  Many messages would have been different.  Heck, many solutions would be different...instead of killing your son, maybe you could just send him to his room or embarrass the hell out of him in front of his mates.  

I don&#039;t see the Bible-based church resolving many of these issues until all people are accepted.  The leadership is behind the times.  The majority of my Christian friends think it is wrong to exclude women from the priesthood (what could possibly be wrong with that?!) and wrong to not welcome same-sex couples.

As I get older, I see how wrong some of this thinking is.  I could just walk away, but I&#039;d rather stay and fight, as Jesus fought.  If Christianity will be interpreted by closed-minded men only, then it won&#039;t thrive.  I have seen the damage the church can do, I&#039;ve also seen what I interpret as good works. 

I will end my post by stating what I think is an answer to your question, and giving two examples.  You asked, &quot;...if it doesn’t represent God’s moral code, then what does it represent?&quot;

I believe it represents what people want it to: Salvation, repression, evil, good, a moral compass, enslavement, sexism, libertarianism, etc...

1) My friend LH grew up in a Christian household.  Her father was a wealthy (and darn good) dentist.  Each year, her friends would spend their summers going to Mexico, or sitting by the pool.  LH traveled to Africa, every year, for six weeks.  She assisted her father in giving free dental care for people who needed it.  They did this through their church.

2) My cousin works as a consultant for an accounting firm.  He was sent to review the books of that defense company which was in the news two months ago.  This company makes sniper rifle scopes...they are used to kill people, period.  The company made news because it turned out to use serial and model numbers on their scopes that corresponded to specific passages in the Bible.

Both my friend, and the CEO of that company- call themselves Christians.

It&#039;s a work in progress...I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sachiko- Thank you! Your primary objective (in my opinion), is achieved.  When I was little, I used to ask the Sunday School teacher why God seemed pretty mean at times.  I was shut down.  I asked that again and again over the years- and learned to question things.</p>
<p>You open the video with &#8220;honor thy father&#8221;.  In reality, my father abandoned my family.  When I asked my priest back then how I am supposed to honor a guy like that, I was told to just honor him.  I did not go back to church for five years.  Their interpretation of Christianity did not &#8220;speak&#8221; to me.  Years later, I was talking to a priest who said I should probably just &#8220;honor my mother doubly&#8221;.  That was good enough for me, as my mother did the work of two parents.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the Bible again.  It was written by men- not women.  Right there, it becomes suspect as it excludes 1/2 of the populations&#8217; interpretations.   No Fortune 500 Company can do well today without having women at the executive level.  How could the Bible?  How could the church?  If women wrote it- only women, I think many stories in the Bible would have been different.  Many messages would have been different.  Heck, many solutions would be different&#8230;instead of killing your son, maybe you could just send him to his room or embarrass the hell out of him in front of his mates.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the Bible-based church resolving many of these issues until all people are accepted.  The leadership is behind the times.  The majority of my Christian friends think it is wrong to exclude women from the priesthood (what could possibly be wrong with that?!) and wrong to not welcome same-sex couples.</p>
<p>As I get older, I see how wrong some of this thinking is.  I could just walk away, but I&#8217;d rather stay and fight, as Jesus fought.  If Christianity will be interpreted by closed-minded men only, then it won&#8217;t thrive.  I have seen the damage the church can do, I&#8217;ve also seen what I interpret as good works. </p>
<p>I will end my post by stating what I think is an answer to your question, and giving two examples.  You asked, &#8220;&#8230;if it doesn’t represent God’s moral code, then what does it represent?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe it represents what people want it to: Salvation, repression, evil, good, a moral compass, enslavement, sexism, libertarianism, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>1) My friend LH grew up in a Christian household.  Her father was a wealthy (and darn good) dentist.  Each year, her friends would spend their summers going to Mexico, or sitting by the pool.  LH traveled to Africa, every year, for six weeks.  She assisted her father in giving free dental care for people who needed it.  They did this through their church.</p>
<p>2) My cousin works as a consultant for an accounting firm.  He was sent to review the books of that defense company which was in the news two months ago.  This company makes sniper rifle scopes&#8230;they are used to kill people, period.  The company made news because it turned out to use serial and model numbers on their scopes that corresponded to specific passages in the Bible.</p>
<p>Both my friend, and the CEO of that company- call themselves Christians.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a work in progress&#8230;I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Sachiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sachiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-1843&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Originally Posted By Federale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How about a Koran reading as well?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you people actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/03/sachikos-sexy-bible-readings/#comment-1833&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read what I write&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1843" rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By Federale</a><br />How about a Koran reading as well?</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you people actually <a href="http://www.sachikospace.com/english/2010/03/sachikos-sexy-bible-readings/#comment-1833" rel="nofollow">read what I write</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Federale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Federale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a Koran reading as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a Koran reading as well?</p>
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